Sunday, February 22, 2009

Ctrl Alt WoW Episode 103 - Where Have all the Decorations Gone

Aprillian, Glanthur and Ashayo discuss another week of playing World of Warcraft, Blizzard’s great MMORPG and the Bladed Edge!

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What We've Been Doing:


RAF is OVER, so back to my old stuff. Tues morning before the regular maintenance, I used Veyle, who had the Netherstorm FP, to get the DK's to there. I was going to finish quests in Nagrand, I wanted to have one area done, but I realized they weren't getting good xp. Then during break Tue night, I had the DK's easily killing stuff in Netherstorm. I could probably take them to Northrend now with no problem. One of the things I'm itching to do is get an Engineer. So I thought I should get those Alliance Dark Knights out of the DK starting area. I forgot how much fun the DK starting area is. A dwarf and Nelf, boy that bouncing is irritating.

Finally went to Blade's Edge with the DK's and Auruk. I had skipped over this area with Aprillian, I did parts of Nagrand then went to Netherstorm and hit 68 out there an went to Northrend. So now I'm in Evergrove for the most part. I love the variety in that zone.

Aprillian can make Ebonweave and stuff, but really doesn't know where to go. She went to Og and took the Zeppelin to Borean Tundra and rode all the way to Dragonblight ran south through the snow and swam up the coast. She had a quest to talk to someone in Moa'ki Harbor and then swam to Emerald Dragonshrine and made Moonshroud

At work with only two accounts, I ran Auruk with alternating DK's. I ran into a Scalewing Serpent that was bright red and Auruk had to have one. After going back to the stable, she realzied she had duplicates.

Aurruk and Elyte got Medium Rare Acheivement


Stormwind raid

Ashayo and Aheal hit Honored with Sons of Hodir this week.
Which opened up the daily "Thrusting Hodir's Spear" quest.
Flying around on a wild wyrm attacking it with a spear. Tough to start with, but fun when you figure out what the hell is going on!
It can also be bugged from time to time (evident when the Wyrm is green - buttons won't, no damage, no dodge, no grip - death. Relog seems to fix it.

Ran quite a few Heroics this week - Azjol Nerub (wipe on spiders before 1st boss even with strong group - is there a secret method here?), Violet Hold, and Old Kingdom. Killing your fellow players in heroic mode during insanity on the last boss is quite challenging for those of us with little PvP experience. Warlocks fear FTW!

Gretta the Arbiter in Brunnhildra Village offers dailies. Supposed to be two, but only getting one (bug). Chance of polar bear mount in the quest reward bag.

Also completed Storm Peaks quest Achievement: The Summit of Storm peaks
In K3, after doing the quest chain to activate teleporter, go back through the teleporter and pickup a further quest.
This leads to being able to do the daily landmine quest.

OS 25-man pre-naxx. one shot it, yay!
Plague quarter - Heigan the Unclean - safety dance! Finally figured out how stay alive.
Construct Quarter - Grobbulus on 2nd attempt (124k on 1st)

25 man Naxx - The Arachnid Quarter.
Grand Widow Faerlina - Priests are needed here to mind control mobs and sacrifice them at the boss when she enrages. I rarely use mind control and was worried I'd stuff it up. Well, I did actually, because no-one told me I had to be standing right next to the boss when I sacrifice. So, after a wipe, we got her down on the 2nd attempt.

Plague Quarter
Loatheb - can only heal for 3 second gaps during fight. Tough fight for healers!


Running more heroics - Healing is much easier with a good group - DPS/Tanks/Healers they all have a part to play...
Arlaerus has been getting some sweet lootz
Sons of Hodir dailies - getting rep - but be careful of the Wild Wyrm bug
Working on jewelcrafting
Can now make Titan Steel - 20-hour cool down
Obsidium Sanctum 25 - tried 1 Drake down - no go on that
OMG Bronze Drake!

Bladed Edge

Blade here.

I was up rather late Friday night, so late that I did my dailies for the Wyrmrest Accord when a call-to-arms, of sorts, came... a guildie (Mujitsu) needed help with the 'big three' in Dragonblight. For those of you not *quite* there yet, there are three quests from Agmar's Hammer that involve an inevitable group as they want you to dispatch a trio of level 74 elites (each with around 100,000 health or so) across the zone.
As I was on Skull (my tank) I rose to the occasion!
Maybe I'm patting my own back a little much, but Muji and I two-manned the elites down easily... granted we were both level 76 (me a warrior tank and Mujitsu a feral druid)... but it seemed that I took very little, if any damage from them... does the level-comparison thing scale *that* much... was it my 'mad tanking skillz'? Or was it the fact that my health bar didn't seem to go down all that fast due to my having 20,000 health unbuffed?
Well *I* thought it was pretty impressive... I'm told reliably that 27,000 is a mark to achieve for heroics and raid tanking...
I'm making it a personal goal to exceed 30,000 once I hit level 80.

I've been thinking about Aprillian's little problem, too... no more Refer-A-Friend instant-summons... but what to do?
How can you multi-box your toons from one area to the next? Especially if one is on an epic mount, another on a normal mount and a third with no mount at all?
I don't know if this is a complete fix, or just a band-aid solution, and it's a little pricy... but the benefit might overshadow the cost of:
A Traveller's Tundra Mammoth.
Yeah... I know what you're thinking... 19,000 gold?!? Blade, are you as crazy as your old Uncle Throgg?
Well yes, but that's not the point.
Lush leather exteriors... all-terrain movement... decent mileage... and lots of trunk space!
Plus... the fuel cost is peanuts!
And talk about 'extra features'!... I've come across these mounts a couple of times when someone *else* was riding them... and discreetly availed myself of their portable-vendors. One on each side / saddlebag... you can repair and everything with them!
Or... and here's the benefit to you, and other multi-boxers, specifically... bump the NPC vendors out of the saddlebags and you have space for not one, but *two* extra characters (and plenty of legroom!)... so you can literally move all three multi-boxed toons around as one tightly-packed unit!
Oops! Need a vendor? Mount up! Your NPCs are right there waiting!
Them bump the NPCs out again and you're ready to pull your multi-boxed miniature-'you's around to further adventures!
Have Aprillian take 'the twins' out for a drag around Northrend when they hit 68!
Ah... you say... 'So what? I can fly!'
Not in Northrend... at least not until level 77 and another thousand gold expenditure for the cold-weather flying skill...
Plus... Northrend is so massive... epic flying is almost a *must-have*... so that's another 5,000 per toon...
Add it up... 18,000 for epic flying and cold-weather flying for all three toons WHEN you hit level 77... what will you do until then?
The Mammoth might be the answer...

From the 'Dirty Little Tricks' Department...
As I approach the end-level of 80, I've been thinking more and more about raiding and epic dungeons... and how it could be made a bit more efficient in terms of crowd control...
I'm sure we've all encountered a scenario (as whatever class) of having multiple mobs attacking, with the tank fighting to control all the aggro, the healer fighting to keep the tank up... and the dps running about willy-nilly drawing aggro from additional mobs and then running away... (stand still, already! ... but that's a rant for another time...)
Here's a macro that might help sort things out... this one's all about Crowd Control...
(Dunno who wrote it, exactly, so props to where I found it)
/focus [target=focus, exists, nodead] focus; [btn:2] [] target
/cast [target=focus] **insert crowd control spell here**
When I think 'crowd control', I think 'sheep'... but Shackle Undead or any other 'pull the mob out of the combat' spell will work just fine. So put this macro where your crowd-control spell would be.
Once the target is identified for control, another target can be selected for damage or to be healed, with the crowd-controlled target available to be controlled until it's time to take it down properly.
Wowwiki also states that it's common for people to add a shout line to warn off would-be sheep-breakers:
/y Controlling >>%t<<... You spank it, you tank it!

Here's another utilitarian macro that more than one style of class might find use for:
/cast [target=mouseover, exists] [] **Name of spell**
Basically, this one lets you mouse over (but not click!) any enemy or group member or NPC and cast the chosen spell with a click of the macro button... this might make raid healing just a bit easier... mousever then hit the button saves you from clicking each raid member independently before you cast... and with some of those bosses hitting super-hard, a second might make all the difference between some nice epic drops and a wipe...
Atternately, this could be used by dps with multiple-target spells... or by the tank to drop some threat onto a second mob without shaking up your button rotation to do so... or tabbing (which might cause you to tab something completely *not* in the combat at the time... a potentially hazardous situation... I've done it... it sucked...

From Ol' Blade's Easter Egg Basket...
When in the Wetlands, either you're Alliance and you have quests there, or you're Horde and you have to do that thrice-cursed mind-numbing run from Hammerfall in the Arathi Highlands to Kargath in the Badlands...
Yeah... we've all done it...
Personally, I say we Horde should commandeer the elf-boats from Auberdine, and conquer Menethil Harbour! Save ourselves a lot of needless running...
Well... at least they put in a little something along the way... so to all of you who haven't yet made the 'epic journey' from teenager to adulthood... I mean... Arathi to Badlands... this one's for you.
On the broken side of the bridge (from the south-side - you Alliance-types will need to come here anyway to find the body of a missing dwarf... you will have to go inside the bridge. In the room where the dwarf is found you will *also* find a mechanical arm in a glass container near the wall... look closely, the arm even twitches now and then...
All in all, a pretty nifty /nod to the 1991 movie Terminator 2... but then that brings up a question... if the Dark Iron Dwarves blew up the bridge... does that make the Alliance gnomes agents of Skylab?
I *knew* we had to cull their numbers for a reason! Our very future is at stake!
Speaking of robotics... let's move all the way out to Area 52 in Netherstorm... through a quest series, you're led to a goblin near town named Doctor Vomisa, Ph.T. who gives you a quest involving a robot...
What's so special about this guy?
Reverse his name. The quest name "You, Robot" is also a big clue...
This proud goblin's name is an homage to who else but Isaac Asimov, one of the fore-fathers of science-fiction literature.

As always, an awesome podcast guys!

Loremaster Blade


Email #1 from Keelhaul

Thank you for clearing up my hunter Kill Shot question. I heard a newer listener to Ctrl Alt Wow ask about getting started dual boxing. I posted the below "mini guide" in the AIE forums a while back. It's pretty good for those who just want to try dual boxing out to see if they like it or not. Obviously I dont expect you to read the below on air but if you like it, feel free to post it on the Ctrl Alt Wow site so your many non-AIE listeners can read it as well.
Thanks again for the great podcast. I really look forward to hearing all your in game adventures each week.


Emails #2 from MO

we can never say thank you enough, so thank you for your on the podcast.

To my last email about starting characters on the new FULLY! locked realm borean tundra, bad idea eh!?

Well I was able to start my new alliance characters; I did start new ones with my RF (love the triple xp!) :)

I started a pally female draenei named Shahram and female druid NE named kasra.

I was able to level them to 23 from friday to monday but wow talk about a humbling experience. Starting from scratch, was not fun and fun at the same time.
It really makes me appreciate my main server Balanzzar and all my high characters and the GOLD, GOLD I say i can make with them.

It is very strange to go through a server where everything on the AH is in copper an silver and i cant even sell my copper ore or leather.

But I was able to for the first time, tank and heal Dead mines, or VC as some people call it.
I know it is a low instance but wow it is click click between screens and more importantly I just yell at myself if I die! :)

Even though I still hate pallys, going back to pre-BC days but protect spec is not bad so far. I had no idea Pallys have a taunt spell: hand of reckoning.
And experiencing healing by a druid is still a learning experience, especially since on both characters I dont have enough to train all my skills.

So to go on, I have also been able to experience a new Addon for me, Carbonite (I think that is how you spell it) it is another map/quest tracker addon. It is not bad and light, only about 6mb.
After QH I was using Light headed but so far Carbonite is not bad. I still like quest guru as well.
I know i have to rely less on addons but you know I am used to it now for what it is worth.

Well time for some wowing for me so take care all and just for the time being:

For the Alliance (but really for the horde :))

Oh and thank you for giving the go ahead to make a Ctrlaltwow guild, I will try to make it somewhere and hope people can join to have some in-game fun

Email #3

Hello Everyone! What a pleasant surprise to have the lucky roll this week. It's a ruse to have me write again, isn't it... Well, it worked.
I would like to have the authenticator please. I have been thinking of getting one, and for once my procrasination has paid off. Thank you!
I have one comment to add regarding the account bound items. There is a wonderful mod called "rating buster" that compares armor, weapons, and jewelry with what you have equipped, and advises if it is an upgrade or not. Thus, your alt can quickly compare the account bound item with what you already have, to see if it would be worthwhile for you.
Berte the Love Fool *blush*

Email #4

Hey Guys,

Thank you so much for the WoW Mini. You were right. It does look great. The pictures do not do them justice.

I thought I would send you another portion of Beastcaller's adventures.


Email #5 from El Jeppy

Hi everybody,

I have been quite a long time listener (well since Aprils great
appearance on 'How I WoW') and have also enjoyed going back through
past shows. It really is like listening to friends chat about the game
I love so what's not to like.

I have been playing WoW for nearly 2 years and apart from a small
flirtation with second life (floaty dangly bits drove me away rapidly)
WoW has been my first real online 'meta' experience.

Having recently retired I now have more time than I know what to do
with and so my playing of WoW as well as exploring other online
avenues has increased substantially. As well as my WoW addiction I am
also freebasing EVEOnline, LotRO and the occasional delve into
Warhammer. I always come back to WoW though and it feels like coming
back home from a business trip and sleeping in your own bed again.

I have also been bitten by the multiboxing bug and now have a desk
full of monitors and a floor full of PCs and an electricity bill that
would choke a donkey! But I love it.

I have the capacity to 5 man but rarely do more than 3 and quite often
just dual box. I am also a huge fan of RAF. My greatest thrill is
sitting in a major city and giving out copious amounts of levels from
my referred accounts. The crys of 'haxor' , 'cheater' and other
expletives ringing in my ears as my toons dance from level to level. I
have also received a certain amount of grief whilst levelling teams by
quest but make good use of the ignore button on those occasions. There
is little that would make me stop playing the way I love to play.

Anyhow I will say my goodbyes to you Aprillian, Ashayo and the not to
be forgotten Glanthur until the next time I put finger (yes just the
one) to keyboard.

Happy WoWing

El Jeppy

Email #6 from Valathilia

This is Valathilia from the Maiev server
I just want to give a shout out to you guys, just want to say I love your podcast I am a first time listner. And I just have to say I enjoy your humor and great tips from your show, well thank you for such a great podcast

First time I ever write a email to a podcast so it's a bit weird cause I have no idea what to say hopefully I will get better

Ty and cya from valathilia

Sent from my iPod

Email #7 from Jason

I just saw the podcast notes for Episode 101. I noticed you read my email, but I have been ill with my daughter and wife. My wife is pregnant and expecting another pixie on August 21st. YAY! Anyway, by the time I was able to download the episode on iTunes to listen to you guys you had posted Episode 102 so I couldn't download it.
Did I win the email drawing?
If so:
Please send authenticator to...
If not, that is fine as well. I still listen to your show and LOVE it!
BTW, another fun thing I noticed with my now lvl 47 hunter Chilie. Have you ever seen Clarice Foster? A tribute to Jodie Foster and her charecter in "Silence of the Lambs" Clarice Starling. She is under Thunder Bluff and gives you a quest fairly early in the game. The really interesting thing is her mouth is sewn shut. Now that is attention to detail for Blizzard!

Email #8 from Ginsue

Hello Aprillian, Ashayo & Glanthor,

I was late getting to episode 101 and I am listening to 102 as I type.

In episode 101 Glanthor asked about the benefits of gathering over jewel crafting. My level 80 rogue is a jewel crafter and has a few of the epic designs that are obtained by doing JC daily quests.

The mats are very easy to grind and the most expensive one (the dragon's eyes) you get from completing the JC dailys. The epic rings and necks sell from anywhere from 1000 to 1500 gold a piece on my server anyway. Once you have the designs you can make an epic piece every 4 days. I have found Jewel crafting to be the easiest way to make gold so far in Wow.

I hope this helps.

Love the show. I listen to a few Wow podcasts and you 3 seem to really enjoy the game.

Happy hunting,

(named after the set of knives if you remember them)

iTunes Review:

Special Dual Boxing by Keelhaul

by Keelhaul

*Here's a little guide a wrote up a while back for my guildies*

A couple of people have asked me about dual boxing so I decided to write up a simple guide of sorts. In this guide you're basically going to be running around mostly on one toon with the other on auto follow. We have all seen the movies with people multiboxing 5 mages or shammys at one time, all casting and wtfpwning in AV… This is not a guide for that.
By no means is this the comprehensive end all dual boxing guide or anything, this is more for the folks that want a down and dirty guide to the basics. Two accounts running on one machine and one monitor.

The Recruit a Friend (RaF) program that Blizzard has going on is amazing for leveling alts. The XP bonus if you are grouped with and NEAR, like 20 yards or so, for killing mobs and handing in quests is X3 the XP. Yeah let me repeat that. Three times the xp for killing mobs and handing in quests.

First thing you want to do is make a second account and tie it to your main account so you can take advantage of the RaF bonus. Go to the main page and click on the Recruit-A-Friend link. You will need to sign in under your main account and follow the instructions.

A couple of things to note:
1. You can send the RaF to yourself, IE the same email address as your main account.
2. You do not need to buy a second account to do this, but it is limited to level 20 on the trial account and you are limited to pre-BC races & zones.

After you send the RaF email to yourself, go check your email and make yourself a second account, a trial one is fine for our purposes here. Use the code that was sent to you when you make the trial account, this will link your main account with your new trial one so you can get the XP bonus.

Now that most of the red tape is out of the way, we can start to think about the actual game play of dual boxing. There are a few mods out there that will help. But I am only going to focus on one for the time being.

Two Box Toolkit, which you can get here: ... olkit.html

Install the mod as you normally would any other in your interface directory. This mod will be running on our /follow toon. It makes accepting quests and so forth on your second toon a whole lot easier.

Now as far as what two toons to make, it’s really up to you. I like to have a good soloing toon as my main and a caster or whatever as my second. Hunter/Pally is a great combo. Rogue/Druid combos are pretty good as well.

Launch wow and make a new toon, window out and launch a second version of wow and log into your new trail account and make yourself a second toon. The cool thing is you don’t have to be in the same starting area so make a tauren and an undead if you want, you can just summon each other with the summon friend feature. Note with the trial account you won’t be able to do Blood Elves because it’s only a trial for WoW and not the TBC or WotLK expansions.

To summon each other you must add each character to your friend list /friend *character name* and again on the second toon. Now click on your friend list and you will see a new button next to the name that says summon. You do have to be in a group as well. You can summon once an hour with each toon, so set those hearth stones up in different areas so you can getto port around and just summon each other.

Set up two box toolkit on your /follow toon. The website above has a walk thru for the mod but the big thing to do is set up a master toon. Open the mod, it should have put a little icon on your minimap, and click set master. Type in your main toons name and you're good to go, now just click auto follow after combat and tab back to your main account.

You only need the mod running on your /follow account, not on your main.

Start questing. As you collect quests, share them with your second toon, he should auto accept any quests. I believe it’s defaulted to do this. If not, click back on the mod icon and click auto accept quests.

You will be tabbing in and out of each account a lot to hand in quests and so forth. Also for some reason the /follow toon doesn’t path great and on occasion you will need to tab back and run back into range and /follow again. Another reason I like the two box toolkit mod is if you get out of /follow range, it will whisper you an alert.

That’s pretty much it. Like I said this is basic just to see if you like it or not. A couple of things to keep in mind on the trial account is you cannot trade, AH or mail so you are out of luck for cash on your second toon.
You will level like a madman so I highly suggest rolling these toons on a server you have a high level toon on already so you can sugar daddy yourself some bags/cash/gear ect…

I have done this a couple of times now, it can be annoying at times but it also has some benefits as well. Your trial account is only good until level 20. You can also grant levels to a lower level character from your trial account. Its 1 level for every two you earn so once your trial toon hits level 20, you can grant 10 levels to a low level toon on your main account. Your account will be linked for 90 days, but the trial account is only good for 10 days. Your toons MUST BE GROUPED AND CLOSE TO EACH OTHER TO GET THE XP BONUS. Make sure they are standing next to each other when you hand it quests and so forth. Lastly the two toons have to be with-in 4 levels of each other for the XP bonus.

Well enough of the wall of text. I hope this helps those that were thinking about giving dual boxing a try. If you really like it you can just make your trial account into a second account and buy a time card. You will then be able to level to 60 on both toons and receive the XP bonus, not to mention a cool looking mount from the RaF program. Let me know if I forgot to mention something, I’m doing this from memory..

PS my best dual boxing time to get both toons from level 1 – 20 is just over 6 hours RL time.
A friend of mine had to turn down his graphics for it to run smooth, I didnt need to myslef, just thought I would mention that if anyone has lag issues.

Thanks Keelhaul, excellent info.

Sunday, February 8, 2009

Ctrl Alt WoW Episode 101 - Blade, Just in the Nick of Time

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What We've Been Doing:


Veyle is so close to dinging that I logged off on her and logged in on Primall ungrouped with Auruk following. I know I can go to a higher area and get better XP and I probably should. Maybe Winterspring. The only reason I was in Azhara was for the whelpling and I saw someone hawking in Trade Chat so the chances of me getting one has gone down. So after killing a couple of more for good luck, I hearthed and headed to WS. Winterspring was good. I also had Aprillian running around getting coins and when she ended up in Winterspring at the same time Primall and Auruk were there, I decided to do some summoning of lower level characters.

Primall ran around killing the Highbane spirit things and after Aprillian had summoned everyone she could, Primall dinged 58, I logged Veyle on and Primall gave her a level to get to 47 and then Primall killed a few more things and Veyle dinged 48.

Tuesday morning, no maintainence, just rolling restarts. Ran Primall with Elyte in Hellfire. Primall was getting RAF experience and she was 2/3 to 59 when I logged off.

Wed morning got on Shemain and Prillia and ran them around the orc/troll starting area while Aprillian did dailies. I also had Aprillian run out to Auberdine to get the elder there and when I found it was so easy, I ran Epril out and then had her summon someone on the RAF account and the Aprillian created a portal and did some more summoning.

Thur I ran Shemain and Prillia to Crossroads and then Aprillian came out and we did some more summoning. Then down to Camp T and then Camp and I had all the toons who hadn't done it do the Ezra Wheathoof quest.

Thu evening I decided I wanted all of my level 1 characters to get to at least 6 if not 10. Brought Theeapril out of Shat by creating a new undead and had her summon theeapril and then she summoned bankapril. The sound in the undead starting area is like the sound when you are dead. Figured another reason to get these low levels up and with coins, the stuff they buy at the vendors, pets, etc, are cheaper. Sat morning running Delish and AprilOfficer around. Took Delish first to undead starting area. The warlock quest to get an imp is way easier there than any of the other two, Belf you have to get to level 5 first, and Orcs you have to get to at least 4 and go over to the cave.


Icecrown quests - chain to open up Crusaders' Pinnacle as a quest hub - and finally the extra dailies from the airship

Asheal - Healed Heroic Violet Hold
Ashayo - Heroic Utgarde Keep ; epic ring

Oracles - another tickbird and cobra

Levelling tailoring by making frostweave bags for guildies
Asheal finally got around to making magnificent flying carpet

Jekle & Hiide in UK with Ecu tanking. Still wiped on last boss ; but romped it in with a 5th
Jekle and Hiide jumped straight to Dragon Blight and do the group "Wanted" quests.
Jekle dings 72 ; Hiide not far behind
Hiide - Azjol Nerub, Nexus

Went back to level Hiide's herbalism, coz I couldn't pick in Dragonblight. Ending up sneaking around Sholazar Basin to pick adder's tongue (best for inscription). Oracle area is good - quite a few nodes, and no aggro. Can also venture into Frenzy Heart because you're neutral with both until you've done the quest line.

Started questing in Storm Peaks at K3 trying to get Sons of Hodir dailies open there too.
You get sent to Brunnhildar Village, inhabited by the blue female Frost Vrykul.
You get transformed into one for the majority of the chain. These are quite a bit larger toons than players, which is most evident when I stand beside my now puny Felguard.
The proto-drake mounts also shake their head from side to side. On a normal toon, this doesn't move the player, but as a Vrykul, the whole rider shakes from side to side.
The quest chain is very long and involves fighting on bears. Eventually get to a point where you use a harpoon to leap from dragon to dragon and fight the rider, while all the
while circling the Temple of Storms. The harpoon has a chain attached, and it feels like your spider man, swinging from a web. Cool stuff!
Asheal hit 2000 quests on the last in this quest chain.

Vault of Archavon 10 man - rogue and priest ; we had none.
vault of Archavon 25 man - druid and rogue ; we had none.

Saturday - ISP probs right before Naxx raid
But got in. Did Arachnid quarter. Got trinket off last boss - [Dying Curse]
Then Plague Quarter - Heigan the Unclean ; horrible kiting between lava ; lag/latency is deadly


In yet another new guild - Sempiternal. So far... so good.
Still debating whether I should switch from mining to jewelcrafting.
Arlaerus in at 79. Almost... Oh, he's still Holy.
Glanthur has achieved all of the items you can acquire through the Badges of Heroism.
Respeced Glanthur to get fine tune his talents. Got rid of his PVP-geared talents (Silencing Shot / Aimed Shot).
Sangfroid is doing well in Hellfire. Should I dual-wield as a tank?
Healed Nexus (Normal) with Arlaerus - really like Beacon of Light.

Bladed Edge

The Bladed Edge

Hey all... Blade here...
I have to say... it is SO nice to be back in Northrend again, gaining *real* experience and *real* quest gold now that I've successfully completed not only the Loremaster of Eastern Kingdoms, but that of Kalimdor and Outland as well!
As of this email, I have less than 200 quests to go... then I'm going to give ol' Blade a needed break and start tanking again with Skullblade.
Oh... and level 80 completely snuck up on me, too... I wasn't even paying attention until I went to change my reputation experience bar to the Kalu'ak again from Netherwing... and I noticed my *actual* xp bar was a solid blue streak... a quick mouse-over... and I had less than 30,000 xp to go!
So... yeah... Ol' Blade's officially at the proverbial end-game... meaning I can't gain anymore official xp...
But the gold gets better now... from my brief calculations, it looks like a bonus of probably 25% from what one *would* have gotten before level 80.
So... from less than 500 gold yesterday... to just under 2000 gold today.
Granted, I *have* been pickpocketing like a mad fiend... so it's not *all* quest gold... but the majority of the Zul'Drak quests were netting me more than 12gold a pop... and I had quite a few left to do.
Lots of gold... oh! And a little surprise in the mail once you hit 80!
(Not telling, though...)


From the 'Dirty Little Tricks' Department...
More love for the Warriors... mainly 'cause I've been thinking a lot more about tanking once I finish the achievement thing with Bladetusk...
That said... this one's a no-brainer...
/cast Revenge
/cast Heroic Strike
Basically, it's a quick and dirty way to snag a bit more threat... if you're like me, and have your keybindings already mapped... #2 is Devastate (plus Victory Rush, as I mentioned in a previous episode...), #3 is Shield Slam, and #4 is Revenge... there's not a lot of room for extra stuff... especially if you add Charge, Thunderclap and any other tricks... or trinkets... or 'Oh Crap' health-recovery macros...
So... slip Heroic Strike into the mix underneath the Revenge button... which means if your Revenge isn't up, then Heroic Strike will go off... but here's where you will have to pay a little attention... it's not overly wise to use Heroic Strike with impunity unless you have more than... say... 50 Rage... doing so might throw off your 'shot rotation' and leave you short on Rage when you need it for a bigger-threat skill like Shield Slam. So basically, don't spam the button right away... Heroic Strike *replaces* your regular 'white' attack... and thus instead of gaining rage (as you would with a normal white attack), you actually *lose* rage. Doing that too often too quickly has the distinct possibility of shaving down your rage rather quickly... so... I wouldn't spam the button until you've gone through your rotation completely at least once (you should have enough rage built up by then)... after that... remember where it (your Heroic Strike key) is... and also remember that if you have the Glyph of Revenge, your next Heroic Strike costs no rage... so you can ignore everything I just said...

From Ol' Blade's Easter Egg Basket...
Deep into Northrend in the area of death and unliving voodoo called Zul'Drak lives a formidible individual... Wodin the Troll Servant... this guy's working with Gurgthock at the Ampitheatre of Anguish (which is basically the Ring of Blood (from Outland) version 2.0)
What's so unusual about this Wodin fellow? It is the fact that his goblin chum Gurgthock is riding on a really small mammoth calf?
Actually, it's Wodin's pet-companion... none other than Zena, Warrior Kitten!

Now... this next one is a bit odd...
In the northeast of the Hinterlands, there's an area called Seradane - one of the four locations of the portals that connect Azeroth to the Emerald Dream. Like the other three, it is an area populated with dragons and dragonkin... but that isn't the interesting part of this particular area.
If you follow a path northeast into the mountains, you will come across what looks like a large dragon skull partially surrounded by a circle of rocks, accompanied by the ubiquitous humanoid skeletons and skulls littered around the area.
Look at the rocks closely... do they have faces etched on them? Also... the tallest of the rocks seems to be radiating a blue aura around its base...
We've seen this sort of rock configuration before... in Arathi Highlands at the various Circles of Binding... but what is the explanation for the circle of stones and bones where it is located at Seradane?
I don't know the answer to this one... but I *do* know that it's been around since before either of the expansions...
There's plenty of places like this waiting to be discovered by the keen-eyed adventurer...

As always, an awesome podcast guys...

Until next week... For Tha Horde!



Email #1
So, it's Xandarr again. (Pronounced Zan-Dur)

My wife and I have spoken... I didn't say that you mentioned her rant in the previous podcast, but before that we had a talk. I read the email she sent you. And it is true, I play excessively on the weekdays. So now I am limiting myself to playing on the weekends and to a minimum.

It seems to be going well... it has only been a week and a half, but it is going well. Even to limiting myself to the weekend I am still lvl 35 with my hunter that i started only three weeks ago.

from Xandarr

Something for Blade

So I haven't emailed you guys in a while. But I do beleive I did tell you that things are going better with my wife and I. I have slowed down on my gaming time. It is usually limited to an hour on my lunchbreak at work (on my personal laptop) and then the weekends pretty much. Sometimes I can get in a couple hours on Thursdays while my wife watches her "shows" (Grays Anatomy and Private Practice)
Anyway, I was adventuring in Sholazar Basin and I found a little thing near a pond. Unfortunately I didn't get the coordinates. But you put your curser over it and it spouts off five different numbers. Hey Blade have you seen this? Could this be a reference to the TV show LOST?
Chilie (aka Xandarr)

Email #2 from MO
I enjoyed your 100th episode and I know its not an easy task to talk for 2 hours (even if you do love wow) but what an AWESOME podcast!!!
and than you so much rolling my way!!!
I told my girl friend who tolerates my wowing very patiently and now she expects me to win the lottery (i guess i better go play if i want to win that too).

I am truly great full for your work and winning.

With work and juggling everyday life stuff, wow time is very fun for me and believe it or not very relaxing, and listen to you all is fun as well.

It was nice to hear blade as well.

I cannot wait to see your wow video as I am too curious to see your wow dual boxing.

Well this week, you will not believe it, I am really speachlesss!!!
I got a Reins of the Green proto drake!!!!
It is by far the coolest thing i have ever looted in wow.

As you can imagine I am very excited and I will try to send you a screen shot of it

Well take care all till the next email and podcast.



Email #3 from Rick

Hey guys,

Thanks for reading my email it's great to find out I'm breaking the terms of service through my favorite WoW podcast.. Both accounts are paid for by me but I'm sure it's still against the rules. Hopefully I'll be 60 soon then I can leave my friends account in the dust :)

Don't think dual boxing is going to work for me at the moment, alt tabbing between my warlock and paladin in the Uldaman instance didn't work out so well.

Anyway thanks for the advice and sorry I didn't say hello to Blade last week or mention happy 100th episode, great show.



Monday, February 2, 2009

Ctrl Alt WoW Episode 100 - The Century Mark

Ctrl Alt WoW Episode 100 -

Aprillian, Glanthur and Ashayo discuss another week of playing World of Warcraft, Blizzard's great MMORPG. Ashayo is back and Glanthur joins us at the end. Good Times. Write us at With Blade Live and In Person!

What We've Been Doing:


Decided to just tunnel through and spend the money and get Primall up in Enchanting, crazy I know. Sent Epril to Thrallmar and then summoned Primall and now she is a Grandmaster Enchanter

On the train back to RI, brought Primall and Veyle into ZF for the elder. After repeat running back from the graveyard for Veyle, I brought in Epril. She can kill 3 with no problem and Veyle gets just about the same amount of xp. Ran through ZF and when Veyle was killed, waited tilk Epril got to the Elder and summoned her.

Was all happy with my decision to level Primall to be the De'er and then Aprillian got a Khorium Lockbox while doing the Sunfury plans Daily. So I thought I should level Veyle, especially since she's on my RAF. I brought her to ZF with my DK Epril. While she's not getting the RAF xp while with the DK because she's 66, Veyle, now 41, can get it when she turns in the quests with Primall. If I remember to put Veyle in stealth before a fight, she can pickpocket the Trolls while Epril kills them.

Took Ashayo's advice and put some glyphs up on the AH and I'll be darn, I'm making a little money and emptying out my inventory.

Everyone dead runs at the same speed.

Wed afternoon, spent time either in ZF or out in the desert running Veyle on stealth while Primall/Epril fights. Veyle would pickpocket. But then they realized they both has the pirate hat quest and that they

Thur morning after spending silly hours in Desolace trying to find waterlogged lockboxes, we went to Angor Fortress and found a bunch. She started at 200 and got to 215 and now she needs another level to go further.

Thu afternoon, after doing the Broken Alliance Quest Veyle dinged 43. Grinding Whelplings while there. I brought Auruk along ungrouped and he skinned them all. Got some leather for Primall to use, which is good beacuse she came across the dragonscale trainer. But I really wanted to bring Tiiaa my mage. But she had to go Crossroad and get her skinning up. She was at 35 and while they were in the badlands, she got up to 47

Elyte discovered [Inscription: Glyph of Horn of Winter] and sold 2 already for 22g.

Bought a guild with two gbank tabs from DeathHuman (Stormhuman) for 250g

6 purchasable tabs which have 98 item slots each; bags are not required for the slots. The price for the first tab is 100g , and increases for each successive tab, 250g , 500g , 1000g , 2500g , 5000g , for a grand total of 9350g .

Took Primall back to the Angor Fortress to level from 215 to 220 in LP. Then realized I needed to be doing quest/mobs that gave Primall xp so went to Searing Gorge and up through Black Rock. Ended up grinding mobs in Burning Steppes While levelling Tiiaa's Skinning in the Barrens. I had Tiiaa grouped with Veyle and Primall for two reasons. Sometimes soloing while in a group will increase your chances of getting greens, or is this an old orc's tale? And I can keep track of health on a character I'm not currently watching. A Nelf just punkin headed Tiiaa, LOL. I think she'll leave it on

Friday afternoon,Tiiaa ventured down to 1K needles to see if she can skin there, and she can. Level 26-28, med/hvy mobs vs 21 -24 in the Barrens. She also picked up the Message to Freewind Post at the Great Lift. She's hoping to be 200 by the time she gets there. Then she can catch a ride back to Camp T and train skinning.

Tiiaa got to 200 went to train and then headed to Shimmering Flats. She ended up getting up 225, finishing the Vulture bone quest and getting a coin from the elder there, good job. Elyte, DK Inscripter

Veyle dings 45 in Azhara and she and Primall went back to the Fortress in Desolace and she did 5 more lock boxes and got to 225 in Lock picking. While grinding in Azhara Primall looted a Thorium Lockboxes and she had one from the WLtS gbank and there was another in the bank. She started to open one of the ones in her bag, when she realized, if she waits until 46, she can open it and get a skill up. So back to grinding Dragonkin in Azhara. Keep in mind that Primall is now getting xp and is a little over 2 bubbles from dinging, and I think she can give Veyle a level.

Satureday Checked in on Epril, DK JC miner while Elyte was at the AH and used some of the money Elyte made selling Glyphs to buy some gems and now Epril can make a bunch of stuff to level JC.

But going back to Veyle and Primall, Primall dinged 57 earlier today but decided to wait until Veyle was closer to 46 before granting her a level. Well Primall could not give a level, i guess she has to wait to 58. After Veyle dinged 46, she opened 3 boxes and got to 228, then she and Primall headed to the Elder in Azhara. Aprillian went to make Shadowcloth in Shadowmoon Valley. It is so much easier when you can fly to the Altar. She also

Sunday Morning Got the [Make Love, Not Warcraft] Achievement in Ogrimmar on two toons for hugging dead Alliance after they hit AH and bank. Sunday evening back with Primall, Veyle and Auruk in Azhara. We logged in and someone had killed a bunch of the blue Dragonkin so while Primall killed the few left, Auruk ran around skinning them for Rugged Leather and then by the time he was done, they had respawned. Aprillian was doing a quest in Shadowmoon in the Training ground gettting sunfury signets for the Scryers.

Aprillian headed to Blade's Edge for the Mana Cell Daily and then heading back to the fp in BE when she realized she could just fly to Netherstorm


Continued leveling Arlaerus. He's 76 now. Only need 2500 more gold before I can get an epic flyer in Northrend.
Glanthur is basically just doing the cooking daily in Dalaran
Sangfroid - a human Death Knight - was created as Frost. I'm still trying to figure if I should dual-wield. He's going to be a tank
My goal is to have an 80 DPS, 80 Healer, and 80 Tank within the next 6 months. I think I can do it.

I can never play enough of the Death Knight starting area. I love it!


Ashayo : Naxx - Four Horsemen - Charmed Cierge staff
Gluth down - hard to keep adds away!
Thaddius - jump to the boss, then positive/negative charge shuffle

Solo The Nexus coin - frogger!
Dual box Halls of Stone (dps, heal) to get coin
Stratholme - coin and finally got Key to the City
And easy as that ... Elder Ashayo. Exalted with Org by collecting coins

Wintergrasp - FUN!

Heroic Drak'Tharon keep

Exalted with oracles - mana regen trinket

Healed Heroic Gun'Drak (but failed on snake boss)

Icecrown questing ; started opening up Knights of Ebon Blade dailies - good for dual-boxing

25-man Vault of Archavon - only warlock and tier-7 chest peice dropped!
[Valorous Plagueheart Robe]

Oracle Egg - Tickbird and Cobra Hatchling!

Jekle and Hiide questing in Howling Fjord. Running back and forth between Giants run and Camp Winterhoof
Both level 71 now. Hiide wasn't Kara geared, so is getting upgrades already.

The Bladed Edge

The Bladed Edge

Not a lot to report this week... I haven't yet had a good look at the changes that the "Great Hunter Nerf of 09" has brought... but then... I haven't been on my Hunter at all in the past few weeks...
Stage 1 of my semi-secret 'Little Project' is complete... those who were present when I completed it (just a few days ago) can probably figure out what I'm trying to do...
But for the rest of you, I'm gonna stay mysterious for *just* a bit longer... it adds to the suspense, doncha know...
(Although... my increasingly frustrated rants in guild chat might have tipped a few of you off...)

Overall, the 3.0.8 patch has not yet affected me *at all*.
As far as Rogues go...
Cheap Shot and Fan of Knives?... I don't really use them.
An interesting bonus to Feint Rank 8... useless in solo play, good for raiding and dungeon-running... as often as I'm in dungeons (as in "not at all" lately...) So that one's a null, too...
The only change I can see *possibly* affecting me is the last one:
Kidney Shot: This ability now has diminishing returns against all other stuns.
What does this mean?
Here's a clarification for those who might be wondering the same thing - but did not want to appear 'noobish' by asking...

*Diminishing Returns* is a lessened effect on the mob if you use the skill or effect more than once on them... such that you have full (100%) effect the first time, then it drops to 50%, then 25% then it becomes immune.
This diminishing return effect resets 15 seconds after the last effect was applied.
Before the patch, Cheap Shot shared the diminishing returns (specifically the stun effect) with other skills like Deep Freeze, Intercept, Shockwave, Hand of Justice, etc...
Now, it is Kidney Shot that shares those returns.
What does *that* mean?
If you are in a group - or deep into PVP - and your Warrior tank associate hits the enemy in front of you with his Shockwave attack... and you - a rogue - are still in Stealth and manage to Cheap Shot the target right after - you would have found that the length of time your attack lasted for was lower than you had expected it to be... or maybe you were too focussed on the thrill of combat that you didn't even pay attention...
Trust me... it was there... ever have your Hand of Justice last for only 2 seconds, Paladins? I bet dollars for donuts that someone *else* stunned the mob just before you did.
That's "shared diminishing returns".
How does this affect anything?
Not a lot in solo play, that's for sure... if you have to Vanish in order to try to start your stun-lock combinations of Cheap Shot and Kidney Shot again, the mob's health resets to 100% once you're out of combat (which is where Vanish takes you)... so you really won't see much of this except possibly in dungeons and definitely in pvp.
In dungeons... if you are repeatedly using Kidney Shot on *any* mob that the tank is focussed on (taking needed rage or threat potential away from the tank) I'm going to sneak up behind you some day and slap you with a fish.
In PVP... the lack of diminishing returns on Cheap Shot now means that you can stealth and re-apply it to full effect.
But... in Ol' Blade's opinion...
If you really have to apply Kidney Shot more than once, you're not doing it right...

From the 'Dirty Little Tricks' Department...
Dunno about any of you, but Ol' Blade has too many buttons on his display... every time a new skill was learned from the trainer or off the talent tree, I'd evaluate its usefulness and try to find a place for it on my button bar...
Eventually... that makes for a really cluttered display... and, naturally, I forget to use some skills because they aren't readily at my fingertips... but what to do?
Use an addon that moves your buttonbars around?
You *could*... but you'd end up just having buttons all over the place...
Or an addon that changes the size of your button bars?
Sure... but then what if you actually have a use for your buttons... squinting at your screen to find the skill you're looking for isn't very practical...
Hence, Ol' Blade's attempts to clean up your button bars by having multiple skills in each button...
My latest one - for Warriors - is Victory Rush.
Not a bad skill... if you attack something within 20 seconds of defeating a target worth experience or honor, you get an Instant Attack (Victory Rush) that does a respectable amount of damage.
Now that there is once again a reason to be grinding on mobs that give experience points... and now that protection spec warriors are all the rage (Hey! Another punny!) I figured I'd find a way to slip Victory Rush into your attack schedule without it disrupting the rest of your button bar...
/cast Victory Rush
/cast Devastate
Simple, no? Spamming this key attempts to cast Victory Rush, but once it does (or if you pass the 20 second mark) it will default to Devastate.
Naturally, you warriors that are specc'd in a tree OTHER than protection can substitute your preferred attack in place of Devastate... so Bloodthirst or Mortal Strike... heck... you can use *any* skill, really... I just used the 'Big Three' as examples.

From Ol' Blade's Easter Egg Basket...
Now... you all recall that Ol' Blade's been wandering back and forth across the worlds trying to accomplish what I've almost decided isn't possible at all... more on that later...
But in my travels, I stumbled across a great find!
Accessible only by flying mount is a day care! Right in Nagrand!
The mountain range just north of the Laughing Skull Ruins hosts this tranquil area... Orc, Human and Blood Elf children running and playing outside, while the matron of this day-care - a troll named Challe - keeps watch over the sleeping infants (of all races) within the tent behind her.
A perfect place to drop off your little sproglet before heading down to go hunting with Nesingwary!
... wait a second... where's the dog that belongs in the doghouse beside the hut...?
And... why are there only scraps of meat and bones in it...?
And... why is there what seems to be a goblin explosive in the sandbox?!?
And... what is kept in the cages behind the hut?
And... is that a small humanoid skeleton in one of the huts?!?
On second thought... maybe this might not be the best place to leave your little sproglets...

Hmm moving on...
Oh... here's a question:
Just how much of a Trekkie *are* you?
Remember the character 'Jadzia Dax' from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine?
Recall that she was a Trill... and the symbiote was named Dax, while the host was named Jadzia?
Ever wonder what happened to the previous hosts?
Betcha you'd have never thought to search for them in the Draenei main city...
Yup. in the Museum area of The Exodar, you can find Audrid, Tobin, Curzon, Torias and Emony... bonus points if you put them in order...

Until next time...

As always, an awesome podcast, guys!



Email #1 from Ryan

So. How do i play wow. Well im 16 so anytime i get to play im happy wither its 10 min or 2 hours. Juggling homework and games are hard but i also play golf and tennis so it makes my time to play even less. I have a 71 DK a 55 hunter which i HATE. The only reason he is 55 is because i wanted a DK. I never dual boxed before i heard this show. I am currently rynning a priest and a rogue. It makes it kinda hard because although the rogue can stealth the priest follos and pulls aggro. So i will rap this up before a hunormus wall of text overwell you. So how do i play well i just play when i can and try hard to level all of my alts. Thabks for providing a great show for us alt-a-holics every week. Thabks and kwep up the great work!
Sauce-trom. Thats how to pronounce the toon name.
Sent from my iPod

Email #2 from Mo

Hello, Happy 100th podcast, 100 thanks and many more to Aprillian, Ashayo, and to all of your guests through the 100 podcasts.
You all truly make our wow playing time fun as we listen to you while we play.

For in game play, i actually have been having fun with the Lunar Festival and Elder achievements. On my warrior I have all of them but of course the northrend instance elders. (I hate pugs even more now as no one is interested in doing the elder achievements.)

Besides doing the daily quest grind to increase rep's, i have tried dual boxing again but it is more difficult for some reason. Before my xps laptop could handle having 2 wow screens open at one time but now I dont know if it is the new graphics since wrath came out or what but the screen and graphics flash and make playing not fun. Any input you can give i will greatly appreciate it: is it more difficult to play 2 accounts on one computer now? do i need to make some chnages to settings? or should i just try to use 2 computers?

I will keep it short as i know fans will be emailing you to wish you happy 100; so thank you as alwasy and FOR the CRLaltWOW!!!!

:0) and the Horde!


Email #3 from Rick

Hey Aprillian, Ashayo and Glanthur,

I started playing the game about a month ago and began listening after hearing Aprillian on an old episode of How I WoW, since then your show has been top of my list.

I'm currently a level 40 warlock and usually play with a friend who started the game at the same time I did, when he's offline I usually run his account for trip exp.

I'm enjoying running the two accounts questing, with your help I set up follow macros. I've considered starting an alt to bring up to the warlocks level. Somebody in my guild advised against this telling me to level 2 (or 5!) shamans. I'm new to this so I'm not sure how easy it would be to control to different classes at a high level. What do you guys think do you level the same classes using 'keyclone' etc?


Rick from Belfast, Ireland
Ricadikuli, The Maelstrom eu server

ps I'm currently going through your back catalogue sorry if you've been asked this question a million times. :)

Email #4 from Karen

Just wanted to write in quickly (since I've been so busy I haven't been able to get an email in lately) and comment on some of the hunter topics.

I play a gorilladin hunter. She's my highest level toon right now and was the first toon I ever made. And I wish I had a sign that says, "I tamed my gorilla in Stranglethorn Vale more than two years ago and he's been with me ever since."

But I digress. As for the great hunter nerf of 3.0.8, I agree with the listener who wrote in to the last show, it really wasn't that bad. I have to admit that I felt a little over-powered with my gorilla taking on 5 or 6 yellow mobs. That just didn't seem right. Now we're down to 3 or 4 at a time and I do have to lay down the mend pets. But that's about right, I think.

A quick addendum to the tip Blade had about a macro to let you assist your focus. If you're a hunter and you are mostly leveling or grinding, you can make an assist pet macro:

/target pet

Put that on your bar and when you're pet is attacking a group, you can always be sure you're on the same mob that he is.

On a different note, grats on the 100th show!

Please do a video, my husband and I are looking into dual boxing a bit more as he has a lot of time to play (bad economy) and I have very little time to play. He was thinking of dragging an extra toon around when he plays, spreading the experience around a little.

Do you have two WoW folders on your Mac to let you play in two different windows?

Looking forward to another 100 shows,


Email #5 from Machiavelly

G'day Aprillian, Ashyao, and Glanthur,

I have been loving the podcast and the wealth of information that I have been able to glean. I have also been enjoying Blade's letters.

I have been playing since patch 1.11 (Original Naxxramas ~ June 2006). Originally started as alliance and don't regret it. You miss half the game if you play only one faction.

According to the addon, "Altoholic" I have 26 World of Warcraft characters on my single account spread across US, Oceanic and Latin America realms. My highest character is a level 70 Feral Druid, Melchizedec on the Oceanic server, Khaz'goroth. I have tried some multi-boxing, via a Refer-A-Friend account on my laptop, but I don't think it was for me.

There are three things I find difficult being an altoholic: Choosing which character to play; keeping up with the friends/guilds on the different servers/factions; and finding time to do the seasonal events for all the alts. How do you guys cope?

Thank you all! Keep up the great work.

Machiavelly of Alea Iact Est: level 61Blood Elf Rogue from Earthen Ring - US.
AKA (on ER):
Sinfjotli, Xelandra, & Rahkwa

End of Emails

Winner from last week: Tracey

Hey guys,
Thanks for reading my email and then rolling me for the prize. Yea, a free month would be great. I have a authenticator already.
By the way, I am a female all my toons are too so no worries, just email me on the information you need for the prize. Again, thank you very much. I really appreciate you all.
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

Thank you again- I just entered the code and it worked great.