Monday, June 30, 2008

Ctrl Alt WoW Episode 69 - Summer Fire Festival Continues

What We've Been Doing?


Obsessed with getting 350 blossoms so I can get the fire pet on Aprillian which is crazy cause she just purchased a Mana Wyrmling for 38g

Actually got to Exador and Darnassus, died a lot but got the flames. Had a hard time juggling alts. Sometimes the mood would hit to run low levels and then sometimes I wanted upper.

Got to Exador with Aprilian, Treshel and Auntrillian and couldn't get far. Called for reinforcement on gchat, got in after much dying.

Friday, took Ardrion

Craziest Escort Quest ever - Running my level 7 to Ironforge. Ran in with Treshel, Aprillian, Auntrillia and died. Resurrected in the tram and hung

Sun am Aprillian got dancer,


Tip of the Week: Bag Upgrades. Did you know that you can drag and drop a new bag into the bag slots on your GUI and it will automatically replace the existing bag, even if it is full?

Jekle and Hiide ran around to get their 350 Blossoms and do some Alliance raiding. Hiide got the Captured Flame, but it just looks like an embarrassed dead Night Elf is following him around. Got into IF, but there was a bunch of alliance around the fire. Hiide ran out in front of them and did a virtual na-dah-na-dah and ran off. Predictably, they all followed, while Jekle calmly put out the fire. :)

Ashayo partook in killing Ahune in Slave Pens, but didn't get any of the phat loot.

Jekle ventured into Zul'Aman for the first time. Ran out of mana, but we got the bear boss down. Which meant we could help a bunch of guildies get their 20 slot bag.

The level 25 Mid Summer Fire Trek.
Why? Well, I wanted to see if I could get all the flight paths where all the Fires are.
Plus, getting 350 blossoms for Brazier of Dancing Flames
But most important: Getting quest experience does *not* eat into your rested EXP. So if you can do a quest without actually killing anything, you just keep accumulating rest. By the end of this silliness, my mage hit level 29 ( Four full levels just by doing these quests ), and the rested bar is still not visible.

None of this was corpse jumping. Sure, I died a few times, but I was rezed on the spot and kept running.

Ran from sepulcher to Tarren Mill
To Hammerfall and Refuge point
Down into Wetland, Menethil harbor
Back up into Loch Modan
Up to Dun Morogh, Kharanos
Failed IF miserably
Back to Loch Modan and down into Badlands, reached flight path at Kargath!
Flew down to Booty Bay; two fires on the beach
Fly up to Grom'gol
Ran up STV into Darkshire, and across to Westfall
Up to Goldshire
Across to Lakeshire
Up into Burning Steppes x 2!
Back down to Swamp of Sorrows
Into Blasted Lands
Port to Undercity, fly to Tarren Mill
Run through Hinterlands (argg)
Port to Org

Flight to Ashenvale
Run up through Felwood, get flight points
Run through Timbermaw cave into Winterspring
Fly to Sunrock retreat.
Run down through Desolace x 2
Into Feralas, out to Sardor Isle,
Back to camp mojache
run down to freewind post in thousand needles

Summoned to exodar - ding 28!

Fly back to Freewind post
Run down to Tanaris x 2
Run into Un'goro - slow fall FTW!
Across to Silithus x 2
Fly to Camp T
Run into Dustwallow marsh x 2

352 Blossoms!

Despite having enough for the reward, I ventured into the Outlands:

Ran down into Terrokar Forest and got them at Stonebreaker Hold and Allerian Stronghold.
Fly back to Shatt
Run up to Zangermarsh and get Swamprat Post FP. Run into Hellfire Peninsula. At this point I did die and corpse jump to Falcon Watch.
Flew to Thrallmar and got the two fires.
Fly back to Swamprat Post and run to Telredor and Zabra'jin
Run down into Nagrand and got the fires at Garadar and Telaar
Decided against trying to get into SMV, BE or Netherstorm

The Add-on Corner


These three work together to improve the information shows when hovering over an item.
- See how much quest rewards will sell for (for when you're just going to vendor them)
- See what items will DE into, and the like DE'ed value
- See what level Enchanting you need to DE an item
- Shows an additional tip with the currently equipped item in the matching slot, so you can compare them side by side



hey guys,
Playing WoW for about a year now and being a Ctrl Alt WoW listener for almost the same time I finally got around to write an email to one of my favourite WoW podcasts. I think my altaholism started when I was playing around on my first character, a warrior (I know, very educated choice as a first char :P) and saw a dwarf hunter in Westfall oneshotting everything. I immediately logged out and created a dwarf hunter myself... it went from there... everytime I saw someone else playing a certain class I just had to create a new alt... Today my characters are:
a 70 hunter; a 67 paladin; a 56 warrior; a 54 mage; three lvl19 twinks and I've just started a shaman and a rogue. (Although most of my alts are female & Alliance, I'm not a 13 year old weirdo, Apprillian! :P)

As you can see, I'm a bit of an altaholic myself ;) I've been trying to get into endgame stuff though (/raiding) for some time now but somehow I always manage to get distracted with leveling alts or pvping on my twinks, etc. I hope to see some endgame content though in the near future with my current main, a holy paladin before Wrath comes out.

Ctrl Alt WoW is definitely one of my favourite WoW podcasts since you guys actually talk about "playing the game" and your experiences in-game while most podcasts just discuss news concerning WoW. Plus, you're both altaholics like me. Most of the people I play with just have one char and maybe one alt they don't even play. If I pay 10-15 bugs a month for playing this game, I'm not just gonna try out one class. I've tried out both factions and a lot of different race / class combinations so far. Even if you just level a character to lvl20-25. You get to experience new content or the same content in a different way by playing another class. Plus, it's a good way to become a better teamplayer in my opinion to check out all the classes to a certain extend. Anyways, this is already a wall of text so I'm gonna stop rambling. Just wanted to let you know that I really enjoy the podcast. Keep up the good work :-)

Janic from Germany

PS: Sorry about the grammar, English is not my first language ;)***

Sunday, June 22, 2008

Ctrl Alt WoW Episode 68 - FIRE IN THE HOLE

Aprillian and Ashayo discuss another week of playing World of Warcraft, Blizzard's great MMORPG. Summer Fire Festival and an interview with the host of Despair and Videogames. Full Show Notes at
Episode 68 - FIRE IN THE HOLE

Summer Fire Festival = EXP a lot

Torch tossing

What We've Been doing:


Getting ready for a Zombie Running of the Beef. I had 3 Brewfest dresses in my Guild bank. I pulled one out of one tab to put with the other and the dress became soulbound. So a warning to others, don't pull your Brewfest dress out of Guild bank. I guess this is only going to apply to a few. So now if I want to give/sell this dress to someone, I have to make them a guild member and let them take it and then gkick them.

Lost two dog whistles on Neutral AH. Tracked the guy down in Tanaris and gave him a piece of my mind. A little while later Rilfire is back in Azhara hunting dragonkin when she notices there aren't many around. She runs into the same guy from the AH.

Sells Azure Whelpling for 750g, nice little chunk of change to have.

Treshel made and Treshel Discovers Flask of Mighty Restoration

Spent time in Ferelas on Aprillian to get TB rep

Triple Boxed Instances three times this week - First BRS got to the boss ogre, with Riversky and then again with Goldfen

Friday Morning got on and Ashayo was on and we decided to do the Dreadsteed quest. I dual boxed with Aprillian and Auntrillia and Matadoria the priest and Asheal and Ashield for Scholomance for the imp quest. But halfway through I realized I needed some stuff.

PTR changes:

Mounts at 30?! Yes, it’s true: Apprentice Riding and mounts are now available at level 30. Training costs 35 gold.

Midsummer Fire Festival
- Frustrating Torch tossing and Torch catching, but 2000exp each.
- Daily More Torch Tossing and Catching, 2000 exp each (Well, 2000 exp for level 25 mage, 2100 for level 26 mage... weird)

- 1000 exp for each flame visited
- Quest line in Zoram Strand. 2000 exp, 2000 exp, then can't get the next in chain (which is just to go to Org!)

- Torch Catching - Aspect of the Pack FTW!



It is pronounced RE-Agent….cause it is a reagent. If it was pronounced RE-gent….it would be spelled regent. Reagent and regent are two different words.

And no….you can not create portal to shat as mage until u are 60.

As far as asking about mods goes….I have something you could discuss. I would like to know what mods that you have found successful in indicating to you when cooldowns expire. I play a 64 paladin tank and 70 holy priest. I use ct_buff and SCT, but find them both lacking. My pally tank needs to know when her Judgement is ready, and SCT flashes it by so quickly, I usually miss it cause Im busy. And I really don’t like squinting at ct_buff to look how much longer I have on my Seals. The same can be said for my Priest and the cd’s for his healing.

What I’m looking for, is a mod that will flash in big bold letters (that I can adjust), that the cooldown has expired. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,


Hi again,

I meant to ask Ashayo something about your AIE guild. I have several high level toons and would like to do end game raiding but have a hard time because I work Monday – Friday midnight shift at hospital, and do most of my gaming after work between 9am and 4 pm EST. As I’m sure you know Ashayo, these are not prime raiding times. I was wondering with u being in Australia (I’m not sure what the time difference is) I’m sure that you find yourself playing occasionally in the morning hours eastern standard time.

My question is, do you think I would be able to find a small raiding group within your guild that would like to have scheduled raids in morning hours mon-Friday?

Any help in this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance again,


Interview with Riversky

You are a purist. Why?

Monday, June 16, 2008

Ctrl Alt WoW Episode 67 - Oops I Knew I Forgot Something

Ctrl Alt WoW Episode 67 - Oops I Knew I Forgot Something
Aprillian and Ashayo discuss another week of playing World of Warcraft, Blizzard's great MMORPG. Full Show Notes at

Note: You may find yourself with two copies. The first upload was too low, I uploaded a louder version.

Addons - Quest helper and Quest guru What We've been Doing Aprillian: Aprillian went back to outland and dinged 60. Spent gold on new skills, including 510 on riding. and then selected PM and went to Cenarion Refuge to do the quest. I took Rilfire and Auntrillia as an escort but she did fine on her new mount. Couldn't see the map on Aprillian or Rilfire but could on Auntrillia, so it was good that she was there. Then they rode to Swamprat Post to get the FP Aprillian turned in the quest and became a Mooncloth Tailor Bought the Weather beaten journal, Primal was in Og and she picked it up - I had moved Primal to Og so she could get some snakes to transfer over. Gold spammers in og are awful Spent Tues and Wed with Rilfire fishing Wed night went to Cenarion and bought book but not high enough. Fished in outland Auntrillia took Relaq and iShaq into SFK - rotating pri and Auntrillia for summoning Grinding Azure Whelplings in Azhara, I got one Rezzing at the Spirit Mounting my kodo in a tight spot in Azhara Spent almost an hour Friday morning transferring dragon hatchlings to the ally ah Friday Night, Sat morning and evening, killing blue dragons in Azhara while Aprillian started her Dreadsteed quest. Sunday Morning Rilfire dings 61 killing dragons in Azhara Aprillian had to hearth out of Shadow Hold to get 150g and go back to Burning Steppes to get some more potion to pretend to be Jaedenar Ashayo: First week where we got down Hydros and Lurker down in one night. Won some very nice [Boots of the Shifting Nightmare] to top the night off. Completed the Blessings deck and headed on over to Goldshire to get "Darkmoon Card: Crusade" from the Darkmoon Faire. "Each time you land a harmful spell on an opponent, you gain 8 spell damage for the next 10 sec., stacking up to 10 times." And to complete the hat-trick, bought [Fused Nethergon Band] using badges with the Shattered Sun offensive. Asheal and Ashield have been continuing their quest lines in Netherstorm and making steady progress. Two "Quests of the week" this week 1. "Bloody Imp-ossible!" - You get this from Cosmowrench and get given an item that lets you summon an imp. So I'm not completing that quest, and will just keep the item. Unfortunately, only works in Netherstorm 2. "Destroy Naberius!". This quest line starts in Kirin'Var Village in south east Netherstorm with the quest "Malevolent Remnants". A couple of the steps have fairly low drop rates, but persist, because the final quest reward is well worth it. Naberius herself can be tough, but I managed it with the priest/pally combo. Important that you watch the ground and move, because she casts a spell on the ground that ticks for 1000 damage. First stab at dual-boxing Karazhan this week with Ashayo and Asheal. Got up to Curator. The mages got some loving this week, and they both up to 25 now. Each of them got a run though SFK and BFD with Ashayo and Hiide, so starting to get geared up. Using Keyclone is starting to get a little more familiar, and actually survived some hairy encounters in Ashenvale while doing the Warsong Saw Blades quest. Can't really decide where to quest them from 25-30. Suggestions?

Sunday, June 8, 2008

Ctrl Alt WoW Episode 66 - Double Ding

Aprillian and Ashayo discuss another week of playing World of Warcraft, Blizzard's great MMORPG.


What We Did this Week


Ashayo showed me the correct way to get there

Triple boxed on day with Goldfen and the following day with RustRuby - Loving the mages
Found out I sold a moth to Sunwheat

Levelling Auntrillia in Enchanting

Every morning just about, went into BRD. Had fun.

Sat morning
Got a pst from a guildie about a request for a necklace from Treshecc


While killing Fel Corruptors in Blades Edge, the item "Damaged Mask" dropped. This starts a quest line that is mostly soloable, but much easier with two character.

You get sent to Camp Forge Anger to use the mask as a communicator to talk to the Burning Legion.
Two things about this chain. (1) The mask quest item has a 1hr timer on it, implying the quest is a 1hr timed quest, but doesn't display as such. (2) One step in the chain has you kill Anger guards to collect 5 keys to activate obelisks to summon Doomcryer. Make sure you clear the area fairly well before you start using the keys. Otherwise, by the time you get to the 5th, the first obeslisk has powered down again, and you have to start over.
Doomcryer is a elite mob, so tough to solo, but easily done with two players.

The next part of the chain sends you into Death's Door. One step has you destroy two Warp Gates with a cannon, which is controlled like a pet. However, imps come out of the Warp Gate and explode on the cannon, causing it damage. You need to destroy the Warp Gates before the imps destroy the cannon. Again, most easily done with two players. I just had my pally lay down Consecrate - the imps have very little hit points.

The last step has you kill the Hound Master, who is a level 68 elite. But, it is easily soloable because you get given a wand that summons an Ancient to help you.
The reward is a selection of 6 different neck pieces.

Add ons for alts


Shows who has what.


Good afternoon

I was going to talk about my views on my alts, which I have many, I play both factions but my main is a 70 alliance warrior.

But then Aprillan, you mentioned how you enjoy skinning mobs that the alliance players downed but yet you get very irritated when you neutral auctions are intercepted (as stated in #63) ?

Are you kind of contradicting yourself ? You do not like it when someone intercepts your auctions but you enjoy swiping skins from mobs that alliance downed.

I never really knew this sneaky aspect of bottom scanner until I heard it from your podcast, several casts ago, but I tell you, I think I need to spread the word on the alliance side on Earth’en Ring on the finer points of its use.

LOL perhaps if you ask for forgiveness from some lonely alliance player I will re-consider letting the cat out of the bag on how to use bottom scanner.

For me, if I see a horde in trouble I will always help them if they acted respectful to me.



P.S. I do have an alt in AIE………

Monday, June 2, 2008

Ctrl Alt WoW Episode 65 - Oh Wait, We Didn't Get a Title

Episode 65- Oh Wait, We Didn't Get a Title

Arkinventory-Great alt addon - Basic set up, next week we'll go over more intense.

New Format - Cycle through various subjects? New subject in closing, what we will be talking about next week.

What We've been doing:



Spent a ton of money levelling up tailoring on Aprillian.
Triple boxed Aprillian Treshel and Auntrillia in Outland and found I really need a skinner. Rilfire, my 60 hunter is on the same account as Aprillian. I have two choices. I can transfer Rilfire or level up Ardrion, hmm.

Tuesday, I transfered Rilfire to another account. Now Aprillian can have her two hunters to back her up. The idea of leveling Ardrion 16 levels was too daunting. So now I have Rilfire, level 60 hunter skinner/lw, Aprillian 58 Warlock tailor/herbalist and Auntrillia 63 Hunter miner/enchanter. I think I have all the bases covered. I tried triple boxing in Outland thinking I would get Aprillian up to speed running her through the initial bunch of quests in Thrallmar. Unfortunately Aprilian died too many times. So we headed to Burning Steppes to practice and to be closer to Sunken Temple for Thursday night run. Aprillian needs to comeplete the Felwood Warlock quest to get the trinket to summon a warlock without a soul shard.


Triple boxed ST with Jekle. Brought Auntrillia, Aprillian and Rilfire got my trinket Abyss Shard

Friday Morning:

Made my first Primal Mooncloth bag. I had 7 Primal mooncloths, which I wait almost 4 days to make each. Primal MC takes 1 bolt of imbued netherweave 1 primal water and one primal life,Primal MC is 47g. Right now PW is 22g and PL is 17g, that's 39g, 1 bolt of imbued netherweave is 4g 37c 1 bolt of imbued nw is 3 bolts of netherweave and 2 arcane dust, 1 stack of nw is about 2.5 to 6 g and acrane dust a little under 1g apiece. You can wait ever 4 days is pay 44g or you can buy it for 47g.
Triple boxed with a guildy named Goldfen. We tried Ramparts but died a lot So then BRD, which was fun but then we ran out of time.

Saturday, weird day. Felt restless and needed to be playing wow. Needed to be "in WoW" Ever have that feeling? I had Auntrillia and Rilfire parked at BR

Sunday - went to AV with Aprillian

Another extended maintenance - no playing for me Tuesday night!

Tackling with the mages. Managing to improve crowd control - took down Knucklerot and Luzran (level 21 elites) Still missing something though.

Ashayo - RAID! More success in Serpent Shrine Cavern - Lurker down two weeks in a row now - still no purple warlock lovin' though. Decided we pretty much Gruul on farm status after we one-shotted him on a mis-pull.

Jekle - First time healing Heroic Arcatraz. Tip for noobs - if summon fails, it could be because you haven't bought the relevant heroic key off the appropriate quarter master! Great guild group - pally tank is something for Ashield to aspire to.

Jekle and Hiide snuck into a Zul'Aman to get the 20 slot Tattered Hexcloth Sack

Asheal and Ashield finished up in Nagrand. Soloed Gurok the Usurper. Tried soloing Levixus the Soul Caller, but he summons elementals as well as mind controlling my priest. Fail!
Completed the Greatmother Geyah quest line for the first time. This questline starts with "A visit with the Greatmother", but there are three other chains you need to complete to open it.
1) blademaster chain
2) altruis the demon hunter chain
3) the murkblood quests (murkblood invaders as well as the escort quest out of sunspring village)

The quest line involves a trip into Auchenai Crypts to kill Exarch Maladaar. Once dead an NPC spawns near his body. (It's one of the crystal beings like A'dal) Be sure to talk to it to get the next quest in the chain. Also, don't forget to pickup the Soul Mirror quest item hovering near the dead boss.
The last killing quest involves killing 15 elites in Nagrand. Supposed to be a 3-man group quest, but soloed it quite easily.
Completing the quest line gives both a blue neck piece and another piece - I chose the plate legs.

It's one of the few quests where I stopped to "watch the show". Thrall is the Greatmother's grand son and he comes to Garadar as part of the story line. Horde players get a nice 1hr buff when this occurs.

Dinged 68 and now questing in Blades Edge Mountains.


Comments from Ctrl Alt WoW:

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Name: Zeppa

re: Re: Ctrl Alt WoW Episode 63 - Learning Your Alts

Enjoy the podcast (I must admit I was excited to find out Ashayo was co-hosting a podcast. I was disappointed when his dual boxing tips on The Instance stopped).

I must share my opinion on something Aprillian has mentioned a few times in the last few shows. If you put something up in the auction house, someone else can NOT "steal" that item by buying it. They are buying an item that you are selling. If you are going to use the neutral auction house as your own way to make money (by sending faction pets back and forth and selling them), I don't think you should really complain when someone else uses the neutral auction house to make some gold. The fact that the person has returned your items is kind of them, I suppose, but I don't feel it is necessary. Also, you have been taught this lesson on more than one occasion, and have yet to learn from experience. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. If you stick your hand in a fire, you get burned. Don't stick your hand in the fire again because you think you should be able to.

Keep up the great work on the podcast.


Hello Aprillian and Ashayo! I enjoyed episode 64 and had a question for you both: When managing all of your alts, do you find that it is easier or difficult to earn gold? I find that when I'm playing alts, I often have to supplement their income with gold from my main. Do you find yourselves always going back to your main to farm or do dailies for your alts, or are your alts self-sufficient?

Thanks and keep up the great work.


P.S. Great job on the How I WoW podcast, Aprillian! :)


Episode 64 - Altaholism Revisited

Since the show is about alts, I thought we'd get back to why we do the alt thing versus playing one character to 70
Etiquette on PvE servers

What We've been doing:


Aprillian dinged 58! She's in Outland

Before that I tried to triple box ST

Netherweave cloth on horde side through the roof 6g for a stack vs 3g on the ally side

Friday morning:

Spent time moving stuff over to ally alt and picked up some more cheaper Netherweave cloth